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This morning, however, I stumbled upon a thread on the game’s subreddit that appears to have found the culprit, decrying Sacred Flame’slack of accuracy as a mirage. The conclusions drawn don’t appear to be exactlyright, but in investigating this myself, I’ve confirmed that Baldur’s Gate 3’s spell tooltips are indeed bugged—and may have even been this way for months.
But first, if you’re unfamiliar with tabletop systems, you’re going to need some very boring technical details to understand what’s going on here. Roll a constitution saving throw to bear with me.
What’s a saving throw?
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There are, broadly speaking, two kinds of offensive actions in D&D 5th edition. These result in either an attack roll being made against an armour class, or a saving throw being rolled. A lot of spells will ask for the latter.
The problem, as user UncommonEra highlights, is that the tooltip for every single spell that needs a saving throw is bugged: “the tooltip states that your Spell Save DC is based on YOUR DEX modifier, rather than your spellcasting modifier (usually WIS) … the biggest takeaway is that it WILL hit more often than it says it will.”
That can’t be right, I thought, so I hopped into the game myself to test it. Turns out, the truth is more complicated than I thought. It’s also more annoying.
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Here’s how I tested this theory using Sacred Flame, a Cleric cantrip that forces a dexterity saving throw against the caster’s spell save DC, which is calculated using the wisdom stat.
I made sure that both my target’s dexterity and my caster’s wisdom were 10, which, at level 1, means that the target is trying to beat a 10 or higher on their die. This means that the UI should display a 45% chance for the spell to land (the target has 11 out of 20 sides on the die that allow them to pass). It did.
Then I adjusted the target’s dexterity, and the number changed accordingly. Similarly, I changed the caster’s wisdom while leaving the dexterity alone—to similar results. To show my working, everything panned out as follows:
To further analyse this, I went ahead and prepared Banishment, which uses a charisma saving throw, on the same character—and the spell save DC on the tooltip used the caster’s charisma.
So that’s the mystery solved, right? The spell save DC on the tooltip is lying to you, but the game will still correctly show your percentage chance of success, right? Enterthis Turbulent-Quality-29who, quite rightly, has noticed that the % chance to hit of Tasha’s Hideous Laughter is inaccurate, displaying a 56% chance of connecting.
I proceeded to then tear my non-existent hair out for the next few minutes trying to reproduce this, but I think I’ve found out what’s happening.
Always check for advantage
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In the example given, their opponent’s rolling with a +6 against a DC of 22. This should require a 16 or higher on the die to beat, resulting in a success rate of 75%.
I think what’s happening here is that the good warlock Turbulent-Quality-29 has missed that their target hasadvantage,which means they’re rolling two 20-sided dice and picking the higher one. Mathematically, this shakes out to a +5 modifier on the roll for statistical reasons I am in no way qualified to explain, so here’s adifferent threadthat lays it out on the D&D subreddit.
They cannot be blamed for this, because I was similarly confused when I had Gale point a dex-save based spell against our party’s barbarian during testing, saw an incorrect number, and realised that Barbarians get advantage on dexterity saves as per their Danger Sense feat.
Anyway, this would give their target the equivalent of +11 on the roll to beat a DC of 22, which shakes out to a 45-46%ish chance of their target saving or, as the mouse-over would display, a 55-56% chance of landing the spell.
Despite the fact I’ve gotplenty of glowing wordsto say about Baldur’s Gate 3, this is a major fumble from a UI standpoint and it’s kind of baffling it’s been kicking around for this long. It’s never impacted me because I’m very familiar with the D&D 5e ruleset, but any new player trying to suss out why their Sacred Flame isn’t landing might be led completely astray, and given an entirely incorrect understanding of how spells in the system work. Hopefully,Patch 7 will addressthis issue before more are led down this accursed path.
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