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GamesFallout’s co-creator may be retired—but he’s still advising on The Outer Worlds 2, and how it can avoid the ‘huge chasms’ of RPG designWhen you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission.Here’s how it works.
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Tim Cain’s had a storied career—he’s mostly known as the co-creator of the Fallout series, which has grown so big it’s gettingits own dang TV show—but he’s also worked on Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines, Wildstar, Pillars of Eternity, and The Outer Worlds.
Cain explains his retirement as a desire for freedom: “There are games I want to make … I’ve been promised too many times, ‘You’ll have final say, we’ll take care of you, this will all be great,’ and that didn’t happen. I’m unwilling to believe it for the eighth time.”
That’s not entirely shocking, considering what he’s revealed about thedevelopment of Wildstaron his channel—while he maintained that Carbine was “one of the best companies” he’d ever worked at, he also told a story of company in-fighting that culminated in a dramatic meeting where he talked “for four hours” about an art director who had been fighting tooth-and-nail with him. “He didn’t do anything different. So I gave up.”
Returning to the interview, Cain says that The Outer Worlds 2 is walking in his footsteps: “There’s stuff they’re trying to do in the sequel (that of course I can’t talk about) that I get pulled in on because it’s similar to stuff I’ve done in the past.”
He’s filling an advisory and cautionary role, warning Obsidian about the potential stumbles in making an RPG: “Sometimes it’s just me saying, ‘I’m not gonna tell you what to do, but here are the pitfalls. Here are some of the huge, huge chasms that lie in your way, that you’re gonna have to wend around.'”
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“I started playing Disco Elysium before The Outer Worlds and would highly recommend not doing that … The Outer Worlds is a known quantity. If you’ve played Fallout and watched Firefly, you’re going to feel right at home. Everything from the broad structure of the story to character progression is safe. Disco Elysium, meanwhile, turns empathy and substance abuse into attributes and will gladly murder you with a ceiling fan in the first minute.”
Still, that’s not to say The Outer Worldsfailed—it just got plonked next to a game that’s still headlining ourtop 100 listyears after the fact. That’s like if you ate at a five-star restaurant, and then chowed down on a really decent sandwich hours later.
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